Monday, February 5. 2007What the large font giveth, the small font taketh awayTrackbacks
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Hi Des,
The Easy-2-Read Standard is good. Thanks for the link, I completely missed it for some reason. I agree font size is still a key problem with the majority if new web design today. Do you think people are still obsessed with content quantity over quality? I find setting my font size correctly and then creating content under this constraint is very useful; it keeps my text short and sweet. PS: You were right about Bubbl.us, they definitely needed some explanation on their site.
Hi Eoghan,
I'm not sure if they obsess over quantity, it's just that they're too lazy to actually write proper concise content. It reminds me of that quote... "I did not have time to write you a short letter, so I wrote you a long one instead" It's just easier to write 3 paragraphs of rambling to come up with good original content. I think this 37S post does a good job of discussing it... http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives2/the_positive_side_effect_of_big_text_less_text.php
I just stumbled upon the Times redesign via John Gruber, and started thinking that they hadn't tested their stylesheets in Safari. You mentioned the blue text on blue and charcoal grey backgrounds, which are two of my biggest gripes, but what really got me was the leading on many of the headers and pullquotes.
I just wrote such a long comment that I decided to make it a blog entry myself... (and at least we can bump the font sizes up using our browsers... not much consolation though)
I find almost no website that I visit (and I visit quite a few) have too small font, even your website I had to enlarge by one (in Firefox).
I think most people know how to enlarge font but I still think for the people who do not, you should design the font large than what people normally do. Good article mate
Hi Des,
I work at Times Online. We had a huge server problem yesterday, and you've been reviewing our new site on pages where the CSS has broken. We're not really crazy enough to run body copy in blue-on-blue or try to teeny tiny type. Apologies for the server problems, but it's a bit like reviewing a copy of a newspaper that has been dropped in a puddle and complaining that our crazy 'all pages stuck together and wet' design is a bit sucky. Anyway, I'm going to do a roundup of blog reviews this morning, and I'll link to you - but it would be great if you could come back today (the site is much healthier, although still not 100%) and have another look. Thanks, Tom Whitwell (Online Communities Editor).
My Apologies Tom,
I knew something was lacking when I saw John Gruber praising the new design, then I checked it again this morning and everything seems to be working well and looking legible. I've updated the post accordingly. Des
um, you're not really in a good space to be lecturing about legibility, mr. white-text-on-black-background.
Dan,
If Light on Dark is a problem, use the alternative style sheet I provide. I figured it would be a matter of time before someone wrote that thought To be honest I'd like to see some recent research that shows Light on Dark is significantly less legible. I believe it was true in the days of 15" CRTs , but I'm not so sure anymore. Des
Like you, I also prefer light on dark. I have seen mention of studies that claim that the readability is better with dark on light, but I wonder how much of that is due to familiarity. It seems to me that it would be pretty hard to do a non-biased study -- any population of study participants is too likely to have way more experience reading dark on light (i.e., ink on white paper) for the study to be fair.
maybe you should check your darkonlight style.
commenttext is way too small, the update box is middletonegrey on darkgrey -> unreadable. and something with the title is messed up too (it is partly hidden in some positioning mess) Firefox 2.0.0.1 on Windows sorry for pointing out the obvious
Des: you need to eat your own dog food. Your font sizes are acceptable, but this color scheme is headache inducing. Grey on black, white on grey?
Devin, I'll have a think about it. For what its worth this is the first time in 30 posts that anyone has complained about headaches while reading.
Light on dark is less legible than dark on white. For most people, it doesn't matter, but some people just have problems with it. I think, to some extent, it's just familiarity, but studies show that black on light is most legible. (see homepage link)
The reason for the small text, and light-on-dark, and a host of other readability problems stem from a whole other bias: age. Web designers tend to be younger than other designers. They have better eyesight. Hard-to-read for you probably looks okay to them. Also, all designers share another bias, which was thrown into high relief back when WiReD was launched in the early 90s: they are better at comprehending complex visual information. It makes them good at their jobs, but, it also means that things they make for themselves may be visually challenging for everyone else.
Hi John,
I had previously read those Wichita studies, they do really excellent work over there. What I am wondering is have any studies on light-on-dark been done recently. I agree with the rest of your points, Des
The problem that I have with light text on a dark background is that it leaves me seeing spots in a similar way that looking directly at a lit light bulb does. I have highly photosensitive vision and I always have trouble with light text on dark backgrounds. If there is a style sheet doing it I shut it off with Firefox and it is alright. If there isn't a style sheet and I really want to ready the article I type CTRL-A to highlight the text and make it slightly more bearable for me.
Thats fair enough Larry,
I do offer an alternative dark on light style, or if you prefer, you can use print preview to read the article in a familiar black on white. I am considering re-doing the site again, primarily cause I have learned a bit more about design since I did this. -- Des |
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